Might as well call the show "Girl"

" I think the writers get lazy with Supergirl's shifting level of strength. The one comment of her being beaten by a baddie then DEO shoots them away is astute."

Yes, I agree. In the "Childish Things" episode in Season 1, Kara couldn't even fly out of Toyman's vat of quicksand without freezing it first. Then in the season finale, she lifted Fort Rozz into space all by herself! Her level of vulnerability also seems to change all the time.
In some of the fight scenes with human opponents, Kara gets knocked to the ground by them. You would expect that it would be like punching a brick wall to them!
In my own fan fiction stories, I've tried to be as consistent as possible with Kara's power and vulnerability levels (while still keeping them somewhere below the extreme levels of the comic books and movies).

I picked up on that fear in Melissa's eyes too Kelly, especially in Fort Rozz. She's doing a fantastic job of showing flickers of fear before Kara's innate drive to help people overcomes that fear. In Fort Rozz Kara was scared to be in a place with criminals her mother put away where didn't have her powers and that's totally understandable. I would love it if we get a sister talk about how both of them are scared after being seriously injured by the Worldkillers, it would be a nice follow-up to the talks in "Triggers". As B5 said fear is a natural response to the beating Kara took but as Alex said our fears don't define us.

Kdogg and Kelly, spot on conversation for me. I've had the same thoughts concerning Kara's defeat and lack of deep conversation about it. Pretty sure I gave my tv the stink eye when what I thought was Alex having an outward reaction to that defeat turned out to be a "Maggie." Good grief, show runners.

Pretty sure it would take more than a glass of wine to deal with the first REAL beat down of Kara.

Training is a good idea, but I feel the show’s angle isnt there. I dont think this season she’s trying to physically defeat them.

"I think Kara's power level is just fine, to me the Super in Supergirl doesn't relate to her fighting ability or overpowering her enemies it relates to her Superheroics (the ability to do what we as humans can't) and to her heart for other people and seeing the good in them. "

Oh. I agree that Kara's power level in the TV show is just fine. But it is lower than in the comics and the movies. On the show, we've seen that Kara can't fly in space or swim underwater indefinitely, because she needs oxygen (unlike in the comics). Also, her super-strength on TV sometimes seems closer to Hercules or Samson than the extreme levels of the comic-book stories. (In the Red-Faced episode, she punched a car and knocked pieces of it across the room, but it didn't end up 20 miles away, as it likely would have in the comics.)And on TV, Kara is vulnerable to things besides kryptonite, red sunlight, and "magic" (however one wishes to define it). In Season 1, Max Lord knocked her out cold with nothing more sophisticated than an especially large conventional bomb that was apparently similar to a MOAB. Then she fell into the ocean, and appeared to be in danger of drowning. That would never have happened in the comics or in the movie (which is why I said she and Superman were overpowered there).
P.S. - By the way, "MOAB" actually stands for "Massive Ordnance Air Burst". ("Mother Of All Bombs" is just a military slang term.)

It's getting real odd now that for the 90% of the existence of the show Kara is ridiculously overpowered and everything is just a walk in the park, and no one complains.

Now the show is done as it should be when the main villain is actually a challenge, and people complain?

It's getting real odd now that for the 90% of the existence of the show Kara is ridiculously overpowered and everything is just a walk in the park, and no one complains.

Now the show is done as it should be when the main villain is actually a challenge, and people complain?

I think that's just because Supergirl and Superman were always "ridiculously overpowered" in the comics (and the movies). (Their only weaknesses were kryptonite, red sunlight, and "magic".) So that's what people expected to see on the TV show. But in reality, a lower power level is better in my opinion, because it adds more dramatic tension to the plots.

I think this thread should be deleted. I dont think feeding trolls is something we should do here

In her defence.... they ARE World Killers, and Supergirl can't defeat them in the comic books, either. In fact, only a World Killer can kill a World Killer.

But we HAVE had a few discussions, as of late, that Kara really needs to be training. Still swinging wide. lol

P. S... You just posted for the first time and this is what you choose as a first comment? *sniff sniff* Is that troll I smell?

If not, jjjjuusstt checking. And... Welcome to the crew.

Now, be nice.

I think it's a good plot device to have opponents that can overpower Supergirl physically without using kryptonite, red sunlight, or "magic". This way the show is avoiding the overuse of kryptonite, which really got kind of ridiculous in "Smallville".

Okay so Supergirl can't seem to be of any help lately strength wise. It's really pathetic how her strength can't compare to the current villians' strength. I mean that scene where she is being held around the neck and struggling like a pathetic weakling is shameful. Might as well change the show's name to "GIRL".

Hmmm....I'm thinking you don't know much about the worldkillers....

And really.....ya could have put this in the already created Kara/Supergirl thread. Yeah....

Kara just spent two seasons essentially taking down the arc "big bads" (Non and Rhea) by overpowering them in physical confrontations, lifting a million-ton space station, and blasting an evil Kryptonian with her heat vision. Not to mention numerous lesser baddies punched out and overcome by her superpowers, strength of will, and a bit of tactics.

Now, finally, she's up against multiple enhanced Kryptonians she can't just beat down. I'd say that's the actual measure of a hero: what do you do when you are up against an actual, mortal threat? How do you face it?

That's actually more interesting than Kara rounding up a bunch of bank robbers who can't even muss her hair with a frickin' rocket launcher.

I'm no troll. Just got annoyed enough to be motivated to post. Gee, a critical comment about "Girl" oh, I mean "'Super'girl" and suddenly people shout "TROLL!". I think the writers get lazy with Supergirl's shifting level of strength. The one comment of her being beaten by a baddie then DEO shoots them away is astute. Sorry, but that last scene of her being held around the neck and doing some fruitless struggling is embarrassing.

It wasn't my comment but, I don't think that you were labeled a troll because you made a critical comment. If you spend some time looking through the posts in this thread and others, you will find quite a few who have been critical of the writing for the show and they weren't labeled a troll. And the inconsistency of Supergirl's strength has been a topic that we have discussed before, too. Most people on this forum don't believe that the show is perfect and would like to see the writing improved to make it a more solid show.

Regarding that fight scene, I wasn't fond of it either. I thought that the entire fight scene was weak and could have been done much better.

My guess is that the troll comment is based on the fact that this is the only post that you have written, it's negative and it was written without much tact.

exactly. I disagree with many of the people here about many different things and get along with them just fine. but if your first presentation is soaking in misogynistic jargon, I am gonna call it out.

I do agree that having Kara win less consistently, this year, and have her battles be tougher, has been a welcome change.

For me, I totally have to agree with this. Not only does it make for deeper acting opportunities for the cast to show their true acting chops, but it's really the only way, I think, for them to drive a deeper, season long story... Which is what I think most of us on here were hoping for half-way through season 1. Remember how we started moaning on here about how we wish we weren't stuck with watching a villain of the week kind of series in the beginning? Well, Supergirl's gonna have to have her alien arse handed to her from time-to-time for a developed story arc to have time enough to marinate. lol

kdogg87 "And the small possibility of Supergirl getting whatever affliction that caused Overgirl's explosion, and that being a season long issue, next year."

Can you clarify further, does this mean Supergirl wouldn't use her powers for an entire season so as to not risk overexposure?, we'd have Kara Danvers and no Supergirl, or am I just reading that wrong?

Well, the truth is that we don't know much about Overgirl's affliction, other than the solar energy was building up in her cells to a point that even a Kryptonian couldn't handle, and it caused her to explode.

Whatever caused it may be a misguided attempt by the Reichsman to power up Overgirl by saturating her cells with yellow solar radiation.

If Supergirl is outmatched by the 3 Worldkillers, I could see Kara risking doing something similar to give herself a power up.

If she indeed did oversaturate her cells, as Overgirl did, I would think it would cause uncontrollable increases in strength and power. And she may have to vent solar energy, on purpose, to keep herself from going critical like Overgirl did. This may mean purposely Solar Flaring in order to reduce the solar energy in her cells. But that may only be a temporary fix.

I got super off topic. But I like trying to predict how current story lines may lead into next year's plots.

I think that a show in which Kara overpowers every villain would be very boring. I enjoy watching shows that have some type of conflict that the main character has to overcome. In Supergirl this year, we have seen Kara wrestling with two central conflicts: the internal conflict of her humanity and the major external conflict in her battle with the World Killers. She hasn't succeeded in overcoming either of those, which keeps me wanting to tune in each week.

We expect that her central conflicts will last throughout the season and will require assistance to overcome. But, I think that her struggles also have to be off-set with some success because otherwise the show would become dreary and monotonous. To me, that is where we should see her able to defeat the minor villain threat that shows up every so often. But, I think that in some ways, this is where the show has not done as well this season. The minor villain fights have been few and in some of those, Kara has deliberately been nurfed, requiring her to have help to defeat them. The lack of success in any of the conflicts that she has in her life makes it appear that she is weaker than usual.

Wouldn't that be because she was powerless and Reign wasn't. In Episode 10 Kara in her dreams said "I'm not afraid" and she showed that later on the episode when she went to fight Reign again and put the Kryptonite Needle into her, I don't think a scared Kara would've have gone anywhere near Reign again so soon.

I think that her being powerless was a major reason why she exhibited some fear in that situation. But, I also have to think that deep down, she has to have some self-doubt in her ability to defeat Reign. You can't take a beating like she did and not think that. Her saying that she was not afraid felt more like an assertion to gather courage rather than a statement of confidence.