Supergirl S3 E7 "Wakeup:" Discussion and Review

So is Ruby half Kyptonian and half human? The last exchange Sam and Ruby had was Sam telling Ruby that she was about to discover something wonderful about herself and not to worry. Unfortunately, the something wonderful has turned into something tragic for Ruby.

As for Kara regretting having loved with a human heart, didn't her parents love one another as a married couple and didn't they love Kara as her parents? Are Kyptonian hearts (love) different than a human's?

I think so, Ruby is half human half krypto-worldkiller. But she won't get the powers until she comes of age I dont think. But thankfully it won't be to the point of the brainwashing bc the evil scientists didnt prepare for her lol

Rewatching right now, and something Mon-El just said hit me. In the cell, he tells Winn if he doesn't get back to the ship people will get hurt...Kara will get hurt. Pretty sure he's referencing Reign... maybe? Hmmm... me thinks the Daxamite knows things.

Oh and... As heartbreaking as it is knowing Kara is in pain and confused... I bet that's ALL gonna go away when Mon-El dons his suit for the first time, ESPECIALLY if this version is sporting the House Of El insignia somewhere on it. THEN we'll see exactly what Kara ultimately did for him--be the mentor it was foretold she would be.

So, why did the ship go back to 12000 years before present day? At the time, humans were probably hunter gatherers still. And.. how on earth did it end up below the sea?

May be the ship had a faulty time jumping mechanism?

Also, I read a Chyler Leigh interview that said the crossover took 3 weeks. Even with shut down days, it seems a lot of extra days to me; which could explain the lack of Kara and Alex time in this episode--compared to Sam and the addition of J'onn-M'yrnn. I don't mean the sisters time by the way. I just felt there was less of Kara.

I'd love to see J'onn's dad interact with others. Especially Kara and Alex (may be during the Christmas episode).

Given the speculation is that Eliza contributed to Reign somehow, it'd be great if the necklace had a greater purpose than as a reminder. I am thinking it does.

Are there more world killers elsewhere in the Universe? Will they all come down here to Earth? I know there are in comics; but what is the plan here? With Legion involved, just one Reign seems a little overkill.

Does the Legion travel the universe? Or, are they limited to the Solar System?

The genetics thing is applicable for all world killers (how did that lady know the name of the future by the way; is she really a witch as someone says?). In which case, the moral quandary is not in what happens now, but what happened before--in how they were created. Is creating someone, giving someone life, just to take their choices away in the future, or with very little choices, the right thing to do?

PS: I am going to enjoy the show for what it is rather than what I want it to be from now on. I really like Melissa, so it should not be hard. As J'onn and his dad says, take the pleasure in the beauty that is still in life. Why focus on the negatives? They may not even be negatives in someone else's viewpoint.

That was actually my speculation as well, but I didn't want to spoil it for anyone.......so I was going to hold off for a while ..... oh well.

We must have a similar diabolical mind .

I don't see an issue with throwing out our ideas. It's not as though we have inside information and are divulging it and as you stated, most times we're not right . I think that probably most people are doing their own theorizing anyway and for me, it's interesting to read those ideas; perhaps catch something that I didn't notice beforehand.

So, go ahead and throw those thoughts out there!

That was actually my speculation as well, but I didn't want to spoil it for anyone.......so I was going to hold off for a while ..... oh well.

We must have a similar diabolical mind .

I don't see an issue with throwing out our ideas. It's not as though we have inside information and are divulging it and as you stated, most times we're not right . I think that probably most people are doing their own theorizing anyway and for me, it's interesting to read those ideas; perhaps catch something that I didn't notice beforehand.

So, go ahead and throw those thoughts out there!

I didn't throw it out here because it is one of the biggest rumors on twitter right now, and since some don't go on twitter. 9 out 10 times rumors like this one ended up being what happens....if it is indeed the direction they are going I didn't want to put the biggest rumor out there as a spoiler for some.

Am I the only one that finds it incredibly annoying that Kara acts like emotions are something that only humans have?

Speaking of unnecessary angst/drama, why couldn't Mon-El just tell people what's going on instead of acting shifty for no reason?

When you are coming from the future, playing with time travel.....just ask Barry, things can go wrong. For her, that is how she is dealing, it's not that she thinks she "doesn't" have emotions, on the contrary she does, and she sees them as a weakness right now, and she sees them as coming from her wanting and having both human desires and her destiny as Supergirl...she thought she could have both, but she doesn't believe that she can have one without the other, sooooooo one has to go. That would be the emotions. Because every time she allows herself to feel deeply, she gets kicked in the heart.....

I think once she sees herself without a heart....ie: Overgirl, that will change.

Well, Kara is going to find out soon what a Supergirl is like without heart.....so this won't be going on for much longer.

Am I the only one that finds it incredibly annoying that Kara acts like emotions are something that only humans have?

Speaking of unnecessary angst/drama, why couldn't Mon-El just tell people what's going on instead of acting shifty for no reason?

You're not the only one. I don't like that feelings (mainly love) are depicted as a human thing when we know they're not. Kara loved her bio family before she ever came to earth. We've seen that J'onn loved his family too. They keep pushing this notion of love being a human want/desire and it's tiring to watch.

See! I don't think this is a Supergirl/Kara specific thing. People have been saying that love and emotions are about humanity for a while now in various works--both fiction and non-fiction. From what the interviews say, I think the writers and show runners themselves consider this to be true.

However, they consider it to be a good thing while Kara doesn't and that is the only difference.

I consider it human hubris because you just need to look at animals to know they can feel love. So, why would not an alien feel the finer feelings that humans can feel while also being able to discern with reason which emotions to entertain and which not?

You can't blame us either because well, we are human; so we tend to see everything with a human lense. We anthromorphise and then to compensate for it, go to the other extreme and de-anthropormophise.

Am I the only one that finds it incredibly annoying that Kara acts like emotions are something that only humans have?

Speaking of unnecessary angst/drama, why couldn't Mon-El just tell people what's going on instead of acting shifty for no reason?

You're not the only one. I don't like that feelings (mainly love) are depicted as a human thing when we know they're not. Kara loved her bio family before she ever came to earth. We've seen that J'onn loved his family too. They keep pushing this notion of love being a human want/desire and it's tiring to watch.

As for monel, the way I see it is the sneaking and lying was completely for the drama of it all. He didn't need to give details, he could have just said he's from the future, the others on that ship are his 'friends' and he needs to get back to them. That could've nipped all the unnecessary lying in the bud. In the end kara and the others still found out anyways.

Exactly! He's to tired to talk but somehow he has the energy to punch people? Or maybe he could have mentioned it before he left the ship for the DEO? (How did he get back to the ship anyway?)

As far as Kara is concerned, there is no reason for her to be like this. It's like the end of last season when James learned he could be a hero without the suit, he already knew that! Now Kara is going to learn that caring about people doesn't make her weak? Then there's the fact it's condescending as hell to all her human friends. I am amazed that we haven't seen an angry drunk Alex telling her off "you're a Kryptonian not a Vulcan."
Also what's the point of making Rein forget all of her emotional attachments, if not to act as a foil to Kara's empathetic hero?

They could use the same thing they used to get on the Daxamite ship once they had the exact coordinates so that they wouldn't end up buried in the rocks somewhere. We pretty much got that angry Alex sort of in "Midvale"...

thi episode sucksMon-El never married Imra. She married Garth Ranzz is married to Garth Ranzz

this is clearly a first part to a much longer story than could be told in 1 episode. I am sure many of tonights mysteries will be told in due time